Video: Patrick Morewood on the Pyga Ninetyfive29c Stage

The Ninetyfive29c Stage has been the cause of much anticipation amongst Pyga fans. The company's first carbon dual suspension bike is designed for cross-country and marathon racing but with a twist. The frame features a slacker head angle, longer top tube and is designed for use with a shorter stem than most XC bikes on the market. For further insight on the development and future of the Ninteyfive29c Stage, watch our interview with Pyga co-founder, Patrick Morewood.



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38 Comments

James Mulholland, Oct 28 2014 03:50

Beautiful looking bike. I always feel a bit of patriotic pride when I see the design and engineering quality produced by people like Patrick Morewood.

Monark, Oct 28 2014 05:22

looks like a niner Jet 9 RDO... it actually looks exactly like one...  

the nerd, Oct 28 2014 05:26

looks like a niner Jet 9 RDO... it actually looks exactly like one...  

 

This guy is not wrong...

Ryanpmb, Oct 28 2014 05:39

looks like a niner Jet 9 RDO... it actually looks exactly like one...  

 

Attention to detail will reveal that it actually doesn't...  :thumbup:

ridin dirty, Oct 28 2014 10:26

Looks can be deceiving http://www.ninerbikes.com/jet9rdo Very different bikes

lesego.2, Oct 29 2014 05:38

Very nice bike

Claudio, Oct 29 2014 06:22

This guy is not wrong...

 

Completely different suspension design, amongst other things. I think it's the triangle at the seat tube/top tube junction that is the main point of similarity.

NicoBoshoff, Oct 29 2014 06:40

Look, I know zero about suspension designs etc., but the bikes look a LOT alike.

VicanZA, Oct 29 2014 07:09

Better be good that Santa Cruz pricing on a local item.

Brian Fantana, Oct 29 2014 07:49

looks like a niner Jet 9 RDO... it actually looks exactly like one...  

 

The only similarity is the curved top tube and the triangular junction where the seat tube and top tube meet.

 

When you start looking at the rear suspension and the rear triangles, the two bikes are different in just about every way imaginable.  At a glance here are a few differences:

 

Rear triangle:

Niner has a one-piece rear triangle which attaches to two suspension links.

The Pyga only has one piece chainstays but there is a pivot just above the rear axle

 

The Niner as the brace on the rear triangle between the left seat stay and the left chainstay

The Pyga does not have this because the seatstays and the chainstays are not a one-piece design, but they are joined via a pivot above the rear axle.

 

Lower Suspension Pivot

The niner has a link that attaches to the front triangle and then runs below the BB and attaches to the rear triangle

The Pyga's chainstays are attached to a pivot directly in the front triangle.  This pivot is located above the bottom bracket.

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem, Oct 29 2014 08:22

As Fantana says... on the face of it, they look similar. But that's all down to the seat tube junction. 

 

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If you have a look here, you see that the similarity is in the top tube and seat tube shape / junction area. And there are very few ways of doing this, while keeping weight down and strength up, as well as retaining a decent standover height. So it's not surprising that this looks somewhat similar to the RDO.

 

But - have a look at the PYGA again...

 

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You'll see that where the Niner has a straight down tube, the PYGA is more curved - like Giant's down tube has become over the years. Again, to ensure that thejunction at the BB is super strong. 

 

The pivot points, rear triangle and shock placement are also very different between the 2. The PYGA is using a derivative of the Split Pivot design, whereas the Niner is more of a Weagle-esque design (like Giant's Maestro as well) except that it runs below the BB instead of above, which makes it very different to the likes of Giant, Ibis and other DW bikes. 

 

The thing to remember, though, is that there are only a very limited amount of ways a bike frame can be built, whilst retaining its design objectives - strength, weight and rigidity. That means pretty much everything will at least in some point in its life look like something else. 

cobus3000, Oct 29 2014 09:17

I want one...no, I NEED one!

Ryanpmb, Oct 29 2014 09:34

As Fantana says... on the face of it, they look similar. But that's all down to the seat tube junction. 

 

JET9RDO_Frame_Red.jpg

 

If you have a look here, you see that the similarity is in the top tube and seat tube shape / junction area. And there are very few ways of doing this, while keeping weight down and strength up, as well as retaining a decent standover height. So it's not surprising that this looks somewhat similar to the RDO.

 

 

Comparison is drawn against the Niner JET9.

 

"RDO" is a light weight version of the model (and many Niner components). Ie: AIR9, JET9 etc will have a RDO version. The JET9 and JET9 RDO look the same.

 

Just some Ninerd education  :thumbup:  :clap: ...

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem, Oct 29 2014 09:40

Comparison is drawn against the Niner JET9.

 

"RDO" is a light weight version of the model (and many Niner components). Ie: AIR9, JET9 etc will have a RDO version. The JET9 and JET9 RDO look the same.

 

Just some Ninerd education  :thumbup:  :clap: ...

 

 

Yep. I do know that. My LBS proprietor is a Ninerd of note... One of the original stockists of Niner bikes. 

 

As for the slip - I'm blaming the meds. 3 myprodol, taken 30 minutes ago...

Ryanpmb, Oct 29 2014 09:47

Yep. I do know that. My LBS proprietor is a Ninerd of note... One of the original stockists of Niner bikes. 

 

As for the slip - I'm blaming the meds. 3 myprodol, taken 30 minutes ago...

 

That'll do it...

Monark, Oct 29 2014 09:52

Thanks for the info gents, from a first glance, they surely do look very very similar. I cant wait to see the Pyga in the flesh. I might even upgrade from my Anthem Advanced to one.

Johny Bravo, Oct 29 2014 06:12

I think most people are still begging for a one ten carbon model. 

Lets see what this Pyga costs, S-Works Epic money by the looks of it.

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem, Oct 29 2014 06:17

I think most people are still begging for a one ten carbon model.
Lets see what this Pyga costs, S-Works Epic money by the looks of it.


33 to 35 for the frame set... if you had listened ;)

Johny Bravo, Oct 29 2014 06:33

33 to 35 for the frame set... if you had listened ;)

Add 20 thousand odd Randelas for the front fork. Then also keep in mind the S-works frameset includes a fork and carbon seatpost for R60 000 randelas, and then we are pretty much even stevens, give or take.

Kranky, Oct 29 2014 06:51

Add 20 thousand odd Randelas for the front fork. Then also keep in mind the S-works frameset includes a fork and carbon seatpost for R60 000 randelas, and then we are pretty much even stevens, give or take.

But then you have to ride a Spez :ph34r:

 

Brand banter aside, if Patrick's description is accurate, then the Ninetyfive29c should be a different design philosophy to S-works. Are they really comparable? I'm not totally clued up on Spez.

Johny Bravo, Oct 29 2014 06:54

But then you have to ride a Spez :ph34r:

 

Brand banter aside, if Patrick's description is accurate, then the Ninetyfive29c should be a different design philosophy to S-works. Are they really comparable? I'm not totally clued up on Spez.

They will be very different, but very much the same. I am looking forward to riding this bike.

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem, Oct 29 2014 07:09

They will be very different, but very much the same. I am looking forward to riding this bike.

Yeah, longer and slacker. So a more capable machine and also more compliant for long days in the saddle, when a long stemmed twitch monster would be a bad thing.

Johny Bravo, Oct 29 2014 07:33

Yeah, longer and slacker. So a more capable machine and also more compliant for long days in the saddle, when a long stemmed twitch monster would be a bad thing.

I will reserve judgement till I ride one. Vipa had a lot of hype, I really dont like it. This however looks promising. 

 

Would still rather have the oneten carbon. 

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem, Oct 29 2014 07:54

I will reserve judgement till I ride one. Vipa had a lot of hype, I really dont like it. This however looks promising.

Would still rather have the oneten carbon.


Yeah, agreed. On the 110 and the hype. ..

BSG, Oct 30 2014 06:06

AND THE NAMES ON THE FRAMES ARE SPELLED DIFFERENTLY!